Hi all! I’m new here! Nice to meet you, guys! 
Once there was a day when sdwdate always failed to start properly (as I understand because of failed connections to more than 6 onion addresses, which it uses to synchronize time). It ended with cross sign on its widget, but nevertheless I ignored it and logged on to one site. I just didn’t have time to figure out what the problem was. Now I’m thinking about how bad I did back then. Was it wrong to ignore this problem, or was it not serious enough to prevent me from logging into the site where I needed to log in at the time? However it’s already done, but now I need to know what to do if it ever happens again in the future. I mean, do I have to drop everything and wait for everything to sync up/ until I solve this problem, or can I blow it off and do my thing?
Yes, I have read this official article about sdwdate. But there is said:
"The time of sdwdate issues matters. If sdwdate fails
- A) during its first run after boot then that’s worse than,
- B) sdwdate failing during any subsequent runs".
But the thing is, in my case it was exactly during its first boot and that’s why I write here. I need to know now how “worse” is it comparied to item “B”.
I think it is also worth noting that I use Whonix + Qubes, not just with some virtual machine. So this too may have some additional specificity of its own.
For any case I also provide the sdwdate log that was received at that time:
+ set -e
+ true 'INFO /usr/bin/sdwdate-log-viewer: START'
+ /bin/journalctl --boot --output cat -n 10000 -f _SYSTEMD_UNIT=qubes-sync-time.service + _SYSTEMD_UNIT=qubes-sync-time.timer + _SYSTEMD_UNIT=timesanitycheck.service + _SYSTEMD_UNIT=bootclockrandomization.service + _SYSTEMD_UNIT=sdwdate.service + _SYSTEMD_UNIT=whonix-firewall.service + SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=suspend-pre + SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=suspend-post + SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=anondate + _AUDIT_TYPE_NAME=SECCOMP
2024-01-18 04:09:08 - /usr/bin/whonix-workstation-firewall - OK: Loading Whonix firewall...
2024-01-18 04:09:08 - /usr/bin/whonix-workstation-firewall - OK: Skipping firewall mode detection since already set to 'full'.
2024-01-18 04:09:08 - /usr/bin/whonix-workstation-firewall - OK: (Full torified network access allowed.)
2024-01-18 04:09:10 - /usr/bin/whonix-workstation-firewall - OK: Qubes DNS firewall rules ok.
2024-01-18 04:09:11 - /usr/bin/whonix-workstation-firewall - OK: Whonix firewall loaded.
Within minimum time 'Mon Jun 12 00:00:00 UTC 2023' and expiration timestamp 'Tue May 17 10:00:00 UTC 2033', ok.
Boot Clock Randomization
https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Boot_Clock_Randomization
+ 11 141000614
Changed time from Чт 18 янв 2024 04:09:14 UTC (1705550954.135973548)
to Чт 18 янв 2024 04:09:25 UTC (1705550965.151984546).
2024-01-18 04:09:45 - sdwdate - INFO - sdwdate (Secure Distributed Web Date) started. PID: 1131
2024-01-18 04:09:45 - sdwdate - INFO - sdwdate (Secure Distributed Web Date) started. PID: 1131
2024-01-18 04:09:45 - sdwdate - INFO - Tor socks host: 10.137.0.12 Tor socks port: 9108
2024-01-18 04:09:45 - sdwdate - INFO - Running sdwdate main loop. iteration: 1
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - PREPARATION:
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - __ ### START: ### /usr/libexec/helper-scripts/onion-time-pre-script
__ Status: First run after boot. (Creating file '/run/sdwdate/onion-time-script-after-boot'.)
__ Static Time Sanity Check: Within minimum time 'Mon Jun 12 00:00:00 UTC 2023' and expiration timestamp 'Tue May 17 10:00:00 UTC 2033', ok.
__ Tor circuit: established
__ Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: The clock might be too fast. Clock is faster than consensus/valid-until 2024-01-18 04:00:00. extra guess: None.
__ anondate_use: Skipping 'anondate-set' since this is a workstation, ok.
__ Conclusion: Tor already reports circuit established.
__ ### END: ### Exiting with exit_code '0' indicating 'success'.
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - PREPARATION RESULT: SUCCESS.
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO -
ERROR: No translation for language "ru", key "fetching".
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - Initial time fetching in progress...
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - Running sdwdate fetch loop. iteration: 1
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 0: pool_size: 21 url_index: 2 already_picked_number: 1 already_picked_index: [2]
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 1: pool_size: 12 url_index: 4 already_picked_number: 1 already_picked_index: [4]
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 2: pool_size: 22 url_index: 5 already_picked_number: 1 already_picked_index: [5]
2024-01-18 04:09:47 - sdwdate - INFO - requested urls ['https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion', 'http://lldan5gahapx5k7iafb3s4ikijc4ni7gx5iywdflkba5y2ezyg6sjgyd.onion', 'http://jkta32w5gvk6pmqdfwj67psojot3l2iwoqbdvrvywi5bkudfeandq7id.onion']
remote_times.py: url_to_unixtime_command (s):
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://lldan5gahapx5k7iafb3s4ikijc4ni7gx5iywdflkba5y2ezyg6sjgyd.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://jkta32w5gvk6pmqdfwj67psojot3l2iwoqbdvrvywi5bkudfeandq7id.onion 80 true
remote_times.py: i: 2 | done
remote_times.py: i: 0 | done
remote_times.py: i: 1 | done
remote 0: https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion
* comment: nytimes onion mirror https://archive.ph/750Dh
* took_time : 29.22 second(s)
* half_took_time: 14.61 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705550996
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:09:56
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -20 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -34.61 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote 1: http://lldan5gahapx5k7iafb3s4ikijc4ni7gx5iywdflkba5y2ezyg6sjgyd.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210310145458/https://onionshare.org/onion.txt OnionShare onionshare.org
* took_time : 60.68 second(s)
* half_took_time: 30.34 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551036
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:10:36
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -12 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -42.34 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote 2: http://jkta32w5gvk6pmqdfwj67psojot3l2iwoqbdvrvywi5bkudfeandq7id.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20221010170933/https://securedrop.org/directory/al-jazeera/
* took_time : 24.16 second(s)
* half_took_time: 12.08 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705550989
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:09:49
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -22 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -34.08 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote_times.py: urls_list:
['https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion', 'http://lldan5gahapx5k7iafb3s4ikijc4ni7gx5iywdflkba5y2ezyg6sjgyd.onion', 'http://jkta32w5gvk6pmqdfwj67psojot3l2iwoqbdvrvywi5bkudfeandq7id.onion']
remote_times.py: status_list:
['done', 'done', 'done']
remote_times.py: took_time_list:
[29.22, 60.68, 24.16]
remote_times.py: half_took_time_list:
[14.61, 30.34, 12.08]
remote_times.py: remote_unixtime_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_raw_int_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_lag_cleaned_float_list:
[0.0, 0.0, 0.0]
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - returned urls "['https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion', 'http://lldan5gahapx5k7iafb3s4ikijc4ni7gx5iywdflkba5y2ezyg6sjgyd.onion', 'http://jkta32w5gvk6pmqdfwj67psojot3l2iwoqbdvrvywi5bkudfeandq7id.onion']"
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO -
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - failed_urls: 3 allowed_failures: 6
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - Running sdwdate fetch loop. iteration: 2
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 0: pool_size: 21 url_index: 7 already_picked_number: 2 already_picked_index: [2, 7]
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 1: pool_size: 12 url_index: 6 already_picked_number: 2 already_picked_index: [4, 6]
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 2: pool_size: 22 url_index: 19 already_picked_number: 2 already_picked_index: [5, 19]
2024-01-18 04:10:49 - sdwdate - INFO - requested urls ['https://ej3kv4ebuugcmuwxctx5ic7zxh73rnxt42soi3tdneu2c2em55thufqd.onion', 'http://fpfjxcrmw437h6z2xl3w4czl55kvkmxpapg37bbopsafdu7q454byxid.onion', 'http://udhauo3m3fh7v6yfiuornjzxn3fh6vlp4ooo3wogvghcnv5xik6mnayd.onion']
remote_times.py: url_to_unixtime_command (s):
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 https://ej3kv4ebuugcmuwxctx5ic7zxh73rnxt42soi3tdneu2c2em55thufqd.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://fpfjxcrmw437h6z2xl3w4czl55kvkmxpapg37bbopsafdu7q454byxid.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://udhauo3m3fh7v6yfiuornjzxn3fh6vlp4ooo3wogvghcnv5xik6mnayd.onion 80 true
remote_times.py: i: 1 | done
remote_times.py: i: 2 | done
remote_times.py: i: 0 | done
remote 0: https://ej3kv4ebuugcmuwxctx5ic7zxh73rnxt42soi3tdneu2c2em55thufqd.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604165016/https://securedrop.org/directory/new-york-times/
* took_time : 15.36 second(s)
* half_took_time: 7.68 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551053
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:10:53
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -11 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -18.68 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote 1: http://fpfjxcrmw437h6z2xl3w4czl55kvkmxpapg37bbopsafdu7q454byxid.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210126151401/https://securityheaders.com/?q=freedom.press&followRedirects=on https://freedom.press
* took_time : 8.01 second(s)
* half_took_time: 4.0 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551045
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:10:45
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -12 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -16.0 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote 2: http://udhauo3m3fh7v6yfiuornjzxn3fh6vlp4ooo3wogvghcnv5xik6mnayd.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604170717/https://securedrop.org/directory/s%C3%BCddeutsche-zeitung/
* took_time : 10.88 second(s)
* half_took_time: 5.44 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551048
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:10:48
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -11 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -16.44 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote_times.py: urls_list:
['https://ej3kv4ebuugcmuwxctx5ic7zxh73rnxt42soi3tdneu2c2em55thufqd.onion', 'http://fpfjxcrmw437h6z2xl3w4czl55kvkmxpapg37bbopsafdu7q454byxid.onion', 'http://udhauo3m3fh7v6yfiuornjzxn3fh6vlp4ooo3wogvghcnv5xik6mnayd.onion']
remote_times.py: status_list:
['done', 'done', 'done']
remote_times.py: took_time_list:
[15.36, 8.01, 10.88]
remote_times.py: half_took_time_list:
[7.68, 4.0, 5.44]
remote_times.py: remote_unixtime_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_raw_int_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_lag_cleaned_float_list:
[0.0, 0.0, 0.0]
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - returned urls "['https://ej3kv4ebuugcmuwxctx5ic7zxh73rnxt42soi3tdneu2c2em55thufqd.onion', 'http://fpfjxcrmw437h6z2xl3w4czl55kvkmxpapg37bbopsafdu7q454byxid.onion', 'http://udhauo3m3fh7v6yfiuornjzxn3fh6vlp4ooo3wogvghcnv5xik6mnayd.onion']"
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO -
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - failed_urls: 6 allowed_failures: 6
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - Running sdwdate fetch loop. iteration: 3
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 0: pool_size: 21 url_index: 12 already_picked_number: 3 already_picked_index: [2, 7, 12]
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 1: pool_size: 12 url_index: 8 already_picked_number: 3 already_picked_index: [4, 6, 8]
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - pool 2: pool_size: 22 url_index: 18 already_picked_number: 3 already_picked_index: [5, 19, 18]
2024-01-18 04:11:05 - sdwdate - INFO - requested urls ['http://wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion', 'http://okd7utbak43lm7qaixr6yv7s62e32mhngjsfpjn26eklokqofg6776yd.onion', 'http://jxsb4ovmavjy3r64bak4ha63xwggf3nzf3vikvs23r2avm5rhzmaqtqd.onion']
remote_times.py: url_to_unixtime_command (s):
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://okd7utbak43lm7qaixr6yv7s62e32mhngjsfpjn26eklokqofg6776yd.onion 80 true
url_to_unixtime 10.137.0.12 9108 http://jxsb4ovmavjy3r64bak4ha63xwggf3nzf3vikvs23r2avm5rhzmaqtqd.onion 80 true
remote_times.py: i: 2 | done
remote_times.py: i: 0 | done
remote_times.py: i: 1 | timeout_network
remote 0: http://wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604175753/https://wasabiwallet.io/
* took_time : 8.86 second(s)
* half_took_time: 4.43 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551063
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:11:03
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -11 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -15.43 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote 1: http://okd7utbak43lm7qaixr6yv7s62e32mhngjsfpjn26eklokqofg6776yd.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210417200650/https://www.apache.be/securedrop/
* took_time : 120.03 second(s)
* half_took_time: 60.02 second(s)
* exit_code: -9
* stdout: empty
* stderr: empty
* remote_status: timeout
remote 2: http://jxsb4ovmavjy3r64bak4ha63xwggf3nzf3vikvs23r2avm5rhzmaqtqd.onion
* comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210605193446/https://securedrop.org/directory/stefania-maurizi/
* took_time : 6.03 second(s)
* half_took_time: 3.02 second(s)
* replay_protection_unixtime: 1686527900
* remote_unixtime : 1705551060
* consensus/valid-after : 2024-01-18 01:00:00
* replay_protection_time : 2023-06-12 00:00:00
* remote_time : 2024-01-18 04:11:00
* consensus/valid-until : 2024-01-18 04:00:00
* time_diff_raw : -11 second(s)
* time_diff_lag_cleaned: -14.02 second(s)
* Time Replay Protection : sane
* Tor Consensus Time Sanity Check: fast
* remote_status: False
remote_times.py: urls_list:
['http://wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion', 'http://okd7utbak43lm7qaixr6yv7s62e32mhngjsfpjn26eklokqofg6776yd.onion', 'http://jxsb4ovmavjy3r64bak4ha63xwggf3nzf3vikvs23r2avm5rhzmaqtqd.onion']
remote_times.py: status_list:
['done', 'timeout', 'done']
remote_times.py: took_time_list:
[8.86, 120.03, 6.03]
remote_times.py: half_took_time_list:
[4.43, 60.02, 3.02]
remote_times.py: remote_unixtime_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_raw_int_list:
[0, 0, 0]
remote_times.py: time_diff_lag_cleaned_float_list:
[0.0, 0.0, 0.0]
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - INFO - returned urls "['http://wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion', 'http://okd7utbak43lm7qaixr6yv7s62e32mhngjsfpjn26eklokqofg6776yd.onion', 'http://jxsb4ovmavjy3r64bak4ha63xwggf3nzf3vikvs23r2avm5rhzmaqtqd.onion']"
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - INFO -
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - INFO - failed_urls: 9 allowed_failures: 6
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - ERROR - Maximum allowed number of failures. Giving up.
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - INFO - Sleeping for 174 minutes, ok.
2024-01-18 04:13:06 - sdwdate - INFO - running command: sleep 10467.832649284