Onion deb repo unreachable

Literally, right now:

sysmaint@host:~ % sudo apt update
Hit:1 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Get:2 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease [12.9 kB]
Get:3 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease [12.9 kB]
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Get:8 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease [43.4 kB]
Get:9 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security/main amd64 Packages [163 kB]
Err:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Get:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease [47.3 kB]
Get:11 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease [54.0 kB]
Fetched 334 kB in 27s (12.3 kB/s)
Notice: Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
Error: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Error: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
zsh: exit 100   sudo apt update
sysmaint@host:~ %
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right now:

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:4 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:6 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.



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10 hours later, still unreachable. The plan is to sit this out, no
matter how long it takes? cc: @arraybolt3 ?

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:2 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

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Again unreachable. At this point, my experience shows that whonix’s
onion services are less reliable to reaching than debian’s apt repo
ones.

Updating who18gw
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:8 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:3 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:4 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:8 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

How come kicksecure’s onion repos “never” seems to go down/become unreachable?

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E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Tools to diagnose this issue do are non-existing. → Forum.onion unable to connect - #25 by Patrick

Server configuration and output of onionprobe is almost identical, except for the places where it necessarily needs to be different. (descriptor, domain name)


Kicksecure:

onionprobe -e w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion

Whonix:

onionprobe -e dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion

What makes a relevant difference is the state of the Tor user’s local Tor daemon.

I have reproduced multiple times that an unreachable onion becomes reachable after restarting Tor. Similar reports can be found online:

When a Tor restart is required and fixes anything, that can (almost) always be considered a bug in Tor as Tor should be able to recover from this without restart.


I would say “try onionprobe”.

sudo apt update
sudo apt install onionprobe

But the problem is, it’s not compatible with Whonix because onionprobe - I assume by design to avoid above issue - starts a temporary (throwaway) Tor daemon - before probing an onion.

Hence, onionprobe isn’t suitable to be run from within Whonix and only from Debian, Kicksecure or similar. [1]

If running onionprobe from Debian, Kicksecure or similar is fine for anyone, try it.


[1] onionprobe supports --no-launch_tor but requires Tor control protocol access, writing an onion-grater profile might be possible, but it would be a lot work for a non-ideal result using onionprobe different than it’s designed to run by default.

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Is this relevant to this discussion here:

Onions are reachable atm from my end.