Onion deb repo unreachable

[mrxmr]

Started to get these errors during Qubes-Whonix update:

Refreshing package infoRefreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease

[Patrick]

Cannot reproduce.

Related documentation chapter: Non-functional Onion Services

[mrxmr]

deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion Unreachable since 2 days:

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:2 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[Patrick]

Cannot reproduce.

[mrxmr]

The onion resolved half an hour ago, and I was able to update/upgrade my whonix template.

@Patrick

Cannot reproduce.

Haven’t you noticed this connection problem to the onion in the last 2 days? At all?

[mrxmr]

Unreachable again. Just now:

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:7 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:8 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[FranklyFlawless]

I can confirm that this issue is specific to the Whonix onion deb repository. Kicksecure’s deb repository is currently reachable, onion or not, and Whonix’s deb repository is also currently reachable.

[mrxmr]

The same onion is still unreachable after 9 hours now.

[mrxmr]

I came back online like this morning.

[mrxmr]

Unreachable: deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/

E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[mrxmr]

After 12 hours, still unreachable:

E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

cc: @Patrick @arraybolt3

[Patrick]

Same issue as:

Forum.onion unable to connect

Investigation has been completed. It’s not DOS related. I can rule that out, because I have other other onions with non-pubic onion domain names. (Such as for fetching e-mail over onion.) The only way to fix a broken onion is the following cumbersome procedure. Tor / Tor network issues / bugs. stop tor@name.service on the server manually delete Tor consensus and state files on the server /var/lib/tor-instances/name/cached-certs /var/lib/tor-instances/name/cached-microdesc-consensus /…

No need to duplicate this.

[mrxmr]

@Patrick

No need to duplicate this.

then clear and concisely tell your users whattf they are they supposed to do if the deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion is down and they cannot get updates to their whonix package repos, due to a problem that seems to repeat every two/three weeks.

Whonix project’s onion websites and repos are unreachable. Are you trying to tell your users that tor network is incapable of delivering reliably?

[mrxmr]

@Patrick

No need to duplicate this.

I really don’t get this way of communicating with your users. Are you trying to say

1. that it is vain for your users to keep trying to reach the onion hidden services of whonix project?
2. that it is vain for your users to use the onion hidden service of whonix project for the whonixOS package updates?

[Patrick]

Yes. Highly unstable.

@mrxmr

Are you trying to tell your users that tor network is incapable of delivering reliably?

Yes.

Debian and Qubes onion also unstable as reported here:

Whonix update issue

@mrxmr

then clear and concisely tell your users whattf they are they supposed to do if the deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion is down and they cannot get updates to their whonix package repos, due to a problem that seems to repeat every two/three weeks.

@Patrick

Related documentation chapter: Non-functional Onion Services

[mrxmr]

@Patrick

Debian and Qubes onion also unstable as reported here

I use both, and both of them are more stable than whonix’s one.

[Patrick]

I don’t have a better answer.

[mrxmr]

Maybe just restart the tor.service on your VPS?

[mrxmr]

Also, what it is to do, then? Just wait for a while and wish the problem away??? Like, the https://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/ is still unreachable.

[Patrick]

@mrxmr

Maybe just restart the tor.service on your VPS?

That, and more had been done as per:

Forum.onion unable to connect

Investigation has been completed. It’s not DOS related. I can rule that out, because I have other other onions with non-pubic onion domain names. (Such as for fetching e-mail over onion.) The only way to fix a broken onion is the following cumbersome procedure. Tor / Tor network issues / bugs. stop tor@name.service on the server manually delete Tor consensus and state files on the server /var/lib/tor-instances/name/cached-certs /var/lib/tor-instances/name/cached-microdesc-consensus /…

@mrxmr

Also, what it is to do, then?

No solution available other than what already written.

@mrxmr

Like, the https://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/ is still unreachable.

Works for me at this time.