"Document Installation and Setup of the New Security-focused Hardened Debian Linux Distribution" selected by Whonix for Season of Docs 2019

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Kicksecure.com would be ideal instead of a “skin” to separate the projects. But I think we can make it work well.

Mostly a habit to use words to “jazz” up content a little bit i guess. Wrong use of “Advanced”. Or wrong placement.

Was looking at Wikipedia:Very good articles - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . There is only 34 Very Good articles in wikipedia. Interesting how those pages are structured. Each paragraph is very specific. Every sentence conveys a short, very informative fact about the subject. With each sentence building upon the previous sentences.

Didn’t find any “IT good pages”. The closest thing would be the “Evolution very good page” Evolution - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Its a subject somewhat similar in complexity but laid out and structured in a simple way.

A curiosity. I wonder what people would think if we started writing Whonix wiki like that. Remove most adjectives, unneeded language.

Could Kicksecure be written like that. It seems from looking at other project with less resources a lot of effort is spent trying to set the project apart from others using big flashy Catch phrases. Kinda like people expect to see that sort of thing.

Not sure beginners can appreciate “in the wild”

Would be better.

yes.

Mostly opinion based. Doesn’t belong.

OK

Ok.

Looking at https://www.torproject.org/ you get all the info you need right off the bat. But have the option of scrolling down for more info.

Yes. Needed to avoid confusion.

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Extension:Theme - MediaWiki and Skin:Chameleon - MediaWiki is now installed, see Login required - Whonix.

I was hoping it could be used on a by-page base by simply using

usetheme=chameleon

on any wiki page. But I could not make that work.

Extension:Theme - MediaWiki links to example link ShoutWiki — express yourself and be heard!

But using it that might be incompatible with what we want to do.

Also does not look great

Whonix ™ - Anonymous Operating System

dunno if this is a skin or extension issue. Looks like a skin issue. As per
Login required - Whonix
users can choose a skin in their mediawiki account settings. Using that preview the skin does not look great.

Could be an issue with https://www.whonix.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css

Edit:

Kicksecure - Secure by Default Operating System

looks a bit better.

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I like that. There is a noticeable differenece. Most of the book like structures I’ve seen have more information added to the header . Like the beginning to a new chapter in a book. Would look even better.

For example,

Before:

Vision

After:

Vision “more descriptive title”

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Btw the vision on Kicksecure - Secure by Default Operating System should be moved elsewhere anyhow. All contents of Kicksecure - Secure by Default Operating System are temporary and can be bodily changed. Kicksecure - Secure by Default Operating System a quick and dirty effort to the the basic idea published only.

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Esentially. Since there is no https://Kicksecure.com This page will be the landing page (home page) Very basic. Get important info across to limit bounce rates.

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For About - Kicksecure Should we mention that Kicksecure is based on Debian (just very basic) or something like Based on Hardened Debian with additonal enhancments to further reduce the likelihood of a temporary or persistent compromise.

Obviously there will be something like https://whonix.org/wiki/Kicksecure/System_Hardening_Checklist

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Also what will the first Kicksecure release be called. Alpha, 1 or 1.0 ?

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Will probably be build together with new Whonix releases and share the same version number.

Kicksecure/About page is completed. However, some contenct needs to be added as it come available such as the “Whats next” sub heading.

https://whonix.org/w/index.php?title=Kicksecure/About&oldid=50887&diff=cur

Have to change the version number in Kicksecure/About page.

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Should the Kicksecure landing page based on html like https://whonix.org or a regular wiki page?

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Wiki. Don’t have website yet.

Is it possible to use {{project_name}} for both Whonix and Kicksecure. Meaning some sort of switch.

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No, not that I know. But we could/should create a template {{kicksecure}}.

Done.

https://whonix.org/wiki/Template:Kicksecure

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Wiki templates support variables. But if we have to define the variable form the page that references the template we gain nothing.

Maybe mediawiki supports conditional variables so it would react based on the page being hosted in the Kicksecure/ hierarchy or something.

What do we do with pages such as

Such pages are not Whonix specific. At best “Kicksecure based” specific. Maybe Kicksecure based is a good concept to introduce to Whonix users?

  • Probably not worth it to turn all Whonix wiki pages into wiki templates. A lot work for just changing the project name.
  • Probably not worth re-inventing all pages and re-adding to the Kicksecure/ hierarchy.
  • So perhaps best to make such pages generic` Ii.e. unspecific to Whonix and valid for Kicksecure too. Perhaps avoiding saying either project name or if saying the project name list them both?

Yes. Good idea to start now. When answering forum questions as well. Its way to much work to start making changes all throughout Whonix.org until there are more regular contributors.

It might be a good idea to either create a page with a more detailed table about the differences between Whonix and Kicksecure. Or maybe create a template we could add to different Whonix, Kicksecure pages. Both would a good idea.


When looking for Kicksecure using a search engine most people will see Kicksecure is hosted on Whonix.org. Might cause a little confusion between the two projects. Wonder if it might be a good idea to add a link to Kicksecure/About on each Kickecure/$somepage for the time being?

I find the first paragraph a little confusing. Will have to rewrite that. → https://whonix.org/wiki/Kicksecure/About#Is_Kicksecure_an_Anonymity_Distribution_Like_Whonix.3F


Looking for ideas for the Kicksecure home page, not sure we should try to reinvent the wheel for the “JAZ”. Most project are using something like “Security Focused” or “Secure Browsing”. But for content lower on the page it might be a good idea to leverage whats been in the media over the last few years about breaches in major free email providers. (just some ideas)

  • People can create unbreakable passwords for each account they have.
  • Possible to clean malware viruses from their system without expensive anti-virus software (VirtualBox snapshots, Qubes DispososableVMs etc)
  • Hardened to prevent compromise.
  • Maybe add a link to a page such as this?: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/most-secure-operating-system/
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Moving some content from https://whonix.org/wiki/Kicksecure to an Kicksecure/features-and-advantages page. Using sdwdate for Kicksecure time source isn’t really about mitigating time-skew attacks? More for something like rollback attacks?

EDIT: Answered my own question.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Dev/TimeSync

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A post was split to a new topic: Move open-link-confirmation for Kicksecure?

First half of Kicksecure/Features completed.

https://whonix.org/w/index.php?title=Kicksecure/Features&oldid=51207&diff=cur

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