Likely because the correct syntax must be learned to contribute. Not easy like Whonix wiki.
Looking at other project wiki’s. Came up with different language. This look better? Looks more like good start to an “About Kicksecure” page. Going to start adding content to the wiki. Where would be a good place to add? Kicksecure - A Security Hardened Linux Distribution
Kicksecure is a free and open-source (non-anonymous) Linux distribution focused on security that aims to provide an advance and highly secure computing environment in its default configuration. Developed from the ground up according to a formidable – and time proven – defense in-depth security module. Kicksecure’s layered defenses provides better protection from many types of viruses that can be encountered “In the Wild”.[ref]Viruses that have not been contained or eradicated through operating system security updates. These updates plug holes in software which the virus would use to compromise the operating system. see; https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/44855/in-the-wild for more on this[/ref]
Keeping a broad user base in mind through out development resulted in an operating system that is both secure and highly flexible. This means Kicksecure can be used for everyday “general-purpose computing” or for more risky activities where an highly advanced security-centric platform is required.
Kicksecure is an complete desktop operating system with an hardened Debian base designed to be run in a virtual machine (VM) on top of the host OS . This configuration leverages the security benefits gained from running an operating systems in an virtual environment while also allowing cross-platform compatibility with popular operating systems.
Numerous applications come pre-installed with safe defaults which can be used immediately upon installation with minimal user input. Since Kicksecure is Freedom software users may install any application of their choosing[ref]Some example of freedom software are Whonix, Debian, and Qubes OS[/ref] with no restrictions placed on how Kicksecure can be used, customized or modified.
Edit: Broke up the above content into more bit size chunks. Will look better for a book like structure imo.
For Kicksecure, I’d recommend we go with an even more barebones version of the Tails example you linked. Practically a landing page that links to more advanced documentation if the user is curious enough to research it. Otherwise we state the main point of Kicsecure and how it differs from Whonix.
OK, Very basic landing page, but point out features that would be desirable / useful to users. Add links for anything we want to highlight. Users that are curious to learn more.
Pages that could be linked from landing:
About Kicksecure
Designs and Goals
Installation instructions
FAQ (This page got to long for Whonix wiki. Maybe good to have one for Kicksecure though)
[…]
Main documentation page (TOC)
Looking at the Whonix wiki. I don’t see a reason to have both an “Overview” and About" Kicksecure page. That might be a little redundant since Kicksecure is not as complex as Whonix.(i.e. no Tor)
Makes sense. Point out Kicksecure = security focuses. Whonix = anonymity . Would be good to state bluntly they are separate projects. Link to a move detailed Overview of Kicksecure.
I don’t disagree but one more point on clarification.
By presentation I meant formatting, theme, style.
For example https://www.whonix.org/ has a better presentation than any Whonix wiki page.
I.e. the contents of the Tails homepage is not bad but the visual impression is not that of lets say https://www.torproject.org/, https://elementary.io/ (for lack of better examples found quickly).
Btw not just wiki’s. Better to compare with homepages.
The reason we are using a wiki (with some skin) and not a homepage is lack of resources.
Very good! Some nits…
Yes.
Dunno what advance means here.
General Note: as a non-native English speaker my judgements on English language interpretation may be wrong sometimes.
Btw did you see Wikipedia? Could you please have a glimpse at a few articles there? Just for the general style. Perhaps introductions texts could be inspired by such language (since we have non-native English speaking users with only basic levels of English language).
Not sure in the wild vs off the shelf vs targeted malware (using viruses even though less correct technically it is better understood by non-computer, non-native speakers) is important enough to mention there.
Not sure development philosophy has a place there?
OS: abbreviation, not well known
host OS: rewrite to Windows, MacOS, Linux since not well known term
Freedom Software
Yes.
This is not great but may be required as long as hosted on whonix.org.
Yes.
Good point.
It’s perhaps for different levels of complexity / attention / difficultly.
For example while looking at https://www.crowdstrike.com I just saw they briefly describe their products. While not Open Source (probably, I didn’t find) I didn’t get the slightest technical details how they could implement that. The homepage (Kicksecure - Secure by Default Operating System until moved to kicksecure.com, if we get there one day) would be “the buzz”.
About page would be more technical getting. And linking to further pages from there could get to the actual meat so to speak.
It’s important that the homepage explains the product as concise and clear as possible. It’s to reduce bounce rates for people who think they found something irrelevant but they actually found something suitable for what they were looking for. It should motivate to take action, i.e. download.
I guess that’s the general philosophy nowadays and also what users expect since all popular projects do that?
Kicksecure.com would be ideal instead of a “skin” to separate the projects. But I think we can make it work well.
Mostly a habit to use words to “jazz” up content a little bit i guess. Wrong use of “Advanced”. Or wrong placement.
Was looking at Wikipedia:Very good articles - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . There is only 34 Very Good articles in wikipedia. Interesting how those pages are structured. Each paragraph is very specific. Every sentence conveys a short, very informative fact about the subject. With each sentence building upon the previous sentences.
Didn’t find any “IT good pages”. The closest thing would be the “Evolution very good page” Evolution - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Its a subject somewhat similar in complexity but laid out and structured in a simple way.
A curiosity. I wonder what people would think if we started writing Whonix wiki like that. Remove most adjectives, unneeded language.
Could Kicksecure be written like that. It seems from looking at other project with less resources a lot of effort is spent trying to set the project apart from others using big flashy Catch phrases. Kinda like people expect to see that sort of thing.
Not sure beginners can appreciate “in the wild”
Would be better.
yes.
Mostly opinion based. Doesn’t belong.
OK
Ok.
Looking at https://www.torproject.org/ you get all the info you need right off the bat. But have the option of scrolling down for more info.
dunno if this is a skin or extension issue. Looks like a skin issue. As per Login required - Whonix
users can choose a skin in their mediawiki account settings. Using that preview the skin does not look great.
I like that. There is a noticeable differenece. Most of the book like structures I’ve seen have more information added to the header . Like the beginning to a new chapter in a book. Would look even better.
Esentially. Since there is no https://Kicksecure.com This page will be the landing page (home page) Very basic. Get important info across to limit bounce rates.
For About - Kicksecure Should we mention that Kicksecure is based on Debian (just very basic) or something like Based on Hardened Debian with additonal enhancments to further reduce the likelihood of a temporary or persistent compromise.
