Whonix onion website / forum / debian package repository unreachable

Patrick · May 17, 2026, 10:45am

That, and more had been done as per:
https://forums.whonix.org/t/forum-onion-unable-to-connect/23107/14

No solution available other than what already written.

Works for me at this time.

Patrick · May 17, 2026, 10:46am

Works for me at this time.

Yes.

mrxmr · May 17, 2026, 10:55am

That’s great. You should be the only user of WhonixOS project.

mrxmr · May 17, 2026, 11:03am

Litereally tried on a different tor browser running on a different computer, the onion URL doesn’t resolve.

mrxmr · May 17, 2026, 11:11am

Literally, right now:

sysmaint@host:~ % sudo apt update
Hit:1 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Get:2 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease [12.9 kB]
Get:3 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease [12.9 kB]
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Get:8 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease [43.4 kB]
Get:9 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security/main amd64 Packages [163 kB]
Err:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Get:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease [47.3 kB]
Get:11 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease [54.0 kB]
Fetched 334 kB in 27s (12.3 kB/s)
Notice: Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
Error: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Error: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
zsh: exit 100   sudo apt update
sysmaint@host:~ %

Patrick · May 19, 2026, 9:06am

Tor onions are generally in a bad state. (This is unspecific to Whonix.)

vanguards is a software project by The Tor Project (TPO) / Tor developer Mike Perry. Quote The Vanguards Onion Service Addon:

A very comprehensive bug report by advanced user in 2022:

github.com/mikeperry-tor/vanguards

Vanguards not effective - distress call

opened 12:03AM - 26 Aug 22 UTC

rr-girl

Thank you for taking the time to read this! We are no experts in Tor networking …or with Vanguards, but know our way around. If anything described here makes sense to you and/or you have a suspicion on what is going on, any kind of feedback is extremely appreciated! 1. What's happening? Our service was running fine and stable for a long time. Suddenly our service experienced light, then severe performance issues at first, then became completely unreachable. This does not seem to be a "regular" DDoS attack. It seems to be a DoS attack, but not like anything known, as it seems to be an attack on the Tor daemon alone. All countermeasures we tried so far were not successful. There is no attack noticeable on the actual services running (http, ssh, ftp, mail, etc.) but only on the Tor connection itself. Even tough we did a deep research and investigation, the event seems to be beyond our comprehension. Documentations about prior attacks on Tor Hidden Services are rare to find and don't make sense to what we are experiencing. We refuse to believe that there is an attack scenario that is unknown and cannot be counteracted as it would render every single Tor Hidden Service vulnerable to it with adversaries being able to take any Tor Hidden Service offline at will within minutes for an indefinite time. The impact on the Tor Community would be beyond scope. We hope somebody with the necessary insight and expertise can at least drop us a hint on what exactly is going on and point us in the right direction towards finding a solution to end this attack or reducing it's impact on our systems and to prevent such attacks in the future. This would help protect Tor Hidden Services around the world from future attacks like the one we are experiencing. 2. What is the setup? - The system runs on a current and always up-to-date linux (amd64) server - All traffic is routed through Tor via Tor transport on port 9040, DNS queries are resolved via Tor as well - The Tor Hidden Service is v3 - Tor is version 0.4.7.8 running with Libevent 2.1.12-stable, OpenSSL 1.1.1n, Zlib 1.2.11, Liblzma 5.2.5, Libzstd 1.4.8 and Glibc 2.31 as libc - Tor compiled with GCC version 10.2.1. Vanguards 0.3.1 is also installed - Tor is running as a systemd service - Vanguards is running as systemd service torrc configuration: CookieAuthentication 1 HashedControlPassword 16:<hash> VirtualAddrNetworkIPv4 10.192.0.0/10 AutomapHostsOnResolve 1 TransPort 127.0.0.1:9040 DNSPort 127.0.0.1:53 HiddenServiceDir /var/lib/tor/hidden_service HiddenServicePort 80 127.0.0.1:80 HiddenServiceVersion 3 HiddenServiceAllowUnknownPorts 0 3. What are the symptoms? - Less than a minute after starting Tor with the Hidden Service enabled the CPU gets to 100%, memory seems unaffected - Used bandwidth increases around 100kb/s - The Hidden Service descriptor is unreachable - The system can still resolve clearnet and Tor addresses - The system can still connect to outbound services (ex. curl to a website) - The system gets flooded with incoming tcp packets on the loopback interface - When Tor is restarted, the flood ends for a few seconds, then starts again - When Tor is started without the Hidden Service enabled there seems to be no problem - When Tor is started with a second Hidden Service enabled, both Hidden Service Descriptors remain unreachable: Tor Browser on Primary HS: Onionsite Has Disconnected The most likely cause is that the onionsite is offline. Contact the onionsite administrator. Details: 0xF2 — Introduction failed, which means that the descriptor was found but the service is no longer connected to the introduction point. It is likely that the service has changed its descriptor or that it is not running. or The connection has timed out The server at (attacked hidden service descriptor).onion is taking too long to respond. The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. Tor Browser on Seconday HS: Unable to connect Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at (secondary hidden service descriptor).onion The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. - When Tor is started with a second Hidden Service enabled which is protected by OnionAuthentication, the primary Hidden Service Descriptor remains unreachable, the secondary (protected) Hidden Service Descriptor is reachable. - When Tor is started with only the second Hidden Service enabled (with or without OnionAuthentication) there seems to be no problem - When Tor is started with the primary Hidden Service protected by OnionAuthentication, the Hidden Service Descriptor is reachable - When attacked, these entries appear in the tor log file: Aug 24 19:42:18.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100% (done): Done Aug 24 19:42:34.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 388 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:42:39.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 240 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:42:53.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 489 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:43:11.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 659 buildtimes. ... Aug 24 19:46:09.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 122s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:46:09.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 122s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:46:09.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 114 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:46:15.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 125 buildtimes. ... Aug 24 19:47:08.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 123s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:47:10.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 122s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:47:10.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 123s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:47:13.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 123s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:47:14.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 495 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:47:18.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 124 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:47:21.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 122s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:47:23.000 [notice] Extremely large value for circuit build timeout: 123s. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) ... Aug 24 19:47:55.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 1000 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:47:59.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 60000ms after 18 timeouts and 117 buildtimes. ... Aug 24 19:52:43.000 [notice] Strange value for circuit build time: 121581msec. Assuming clock jump. Purpose 14 (Measuring circuit timeout) Aug 24 19:52:43.000 [notice] Your network connection speed appears to have changed. Resetting timeout to 120000ms after 18 timeouts and 57 buildtimes. Aug 24 19:52:53.000 [notice] Interrupt: exiting cleanly. 4. What was tried to resolve the issue? - We set up a completely new server from scratch running only basic OS as well as tor and vanguards in standard configuration to exclude the possibility of a mis-configuration on our affected server. As soon as tor was started with the attacked descriptor the exact same things are happening. - We tried to split the load on our server via OnionBalance in this setup: Server1: Runs Onionbalance for primary Hidden Service Descriptor Server2/3/4: Runs the Hidden Service on new and different Hidden Service Descriptors - This does not bring the original Hidden Service Descriptor back to life - The service descriptors on servers 2/3/4 are reachable when opened directly, but not via the now balanced primary descriptor - The CPU on servers 2/3/4 go to 100% as long as the attack takes place, while the CPU on server 1 (balancer) remains normal - Adding more backend servers to the balancer did not make a difference either - We added these directives to the hidden service block in torrc and tried various settings on them: HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSDefense 1 HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSBurstPerSec <tested with various values> HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSRatePerSec <tested with various values> This reduced CPU load significantly on servers 2/3/4, but the balanced service descriptor remains unreachable. - We tried changing various settings in vanguards.conf, with no success. - We tried to identify the attacking tcp packets and have them blocked via iptables, with no success. Our expertise is not sufficient to draw ideas of what exctely is happening by inspecting the contents of said tcp packets which look like this: 19:45:27.839934 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 35746, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 4100) 127.0.0.1.9051 > 127.0.0.1.46712: Flags [P.], cksum 0x0df9 (incorrect -> 0xe713), seq 1543428574:1543432622, ack 1711981309, win 512, options [nop,nop,TS val 2971851406 ecr 2971851369], length 4048 E.....@.@..O........#[.x[...f ............. ."...".i650 CIRC 9802 EXTENDED $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7B46F20449D6F25150E189428B62E1E3BA5848A9~galtlandeu,$BF93594384A02DE7689C4FD821E2638DA2CD4792~labaliseridicule BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.060324 650 CIRC 9802 BUILT $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7B46F20449D6F25150E189428B62E1E3BA5848A9~galtlandeu,$BF93594384A02DE7689C4FD821E2638DA2CD4792~labaliseridicule BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.060324 650 CIRC_MINOR 9802 PURPOSE_CHANGED $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7B46F20449D6F25150E189428B62E1E3BA5848A9~galtlandeu,$BF93594384A02DE7689C4FD821E2638DA2CD4792~labaliseridicule BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_JOINED REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.060324 OLD_PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND OLD_HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING 650 CIRC 9818 EXTENDED $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7A319C431F38CB30A0BC0C49144369A611920725~BahnhufPowah2,$8587A1B4CCD0700F164CCD588F79743C74FE8700~mev4PLicebeer16b BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.493699 650 CIRC 9818 BUILT $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7A319C431F38CB30A0BC0C49144369A611920725~BahnhufPowah2,$8587A1B4CCD0700F164CCD588F79743C74FE8700~mev4PLicebeer16b BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.493699 650 CIRC_MINOR 9818 PURPOSE_CHANGED $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$CED577F091DCB15AD8C87FBD452A51EA9E60BFC2~strayWires,$CC8B218ED3615827A5DCF008FC62598DEF533B4F~mikrogravitation02,$7A319C431F38CB30A0BC0C49144369A611920725~BahnhufPowah2,$8587A1B4CCD0700F164CCD588F79743C74FE8700~mev4PLicebeer16b BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_JOINED REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:22.493699 OLD_PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND OLD_HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING 650 CIRC 9997 EXTENDED $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$8D896C8B367813030591A00DB7E7722EF6C4C23C~Luxembourg,$FF353F5D011E69ECDA10A57B46D06BC7B3FEB196~fuego,$347253D1D5246CB1C4CF8088C6982FE77CF7AB9C~ph3x,$E84F41FA1D1FA303FD7A99A35E50ACEF4269868C~Quetzalcoatl BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:25.100429 650 CIRC 9997 BUILT $2BCA0A8B5759DBD764BF9FA5D1B3AEE9D74D2B68~Waeswynn,$8D896C8B367813030591A00DB7E7722EF6C4C23C~Luxembourg,$FF353F5D011E69ECDA10A57B46D06BC7B3FEB196~fuego,$347253D1D5246CB1C4CF8088C6982FE77CF7AB9C~ph3x,$E84F41FA1D1FA303FD7A99A35E50ACEF4269868C~Quetzalcoatl BUILD_FLAGS=IS_INTERNAL,NEED_CAPACITY PURPOSE=HS_SERVICE_REND HS_STATE=HSSR_CONNECTING REND_QUERY=|---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| TIME_CREATED=2022-08-24T19:45:25.10 This is with Tor running on a single server. When balanced, the |---------(attacked hidden service descriptor)---------| is replaced by the backends service descriptors of server 2/3/4. We can make a larger tcpdump snipplet available, if needed. 5. Conclusions We think that an adversary has the ability to "interrupt" a Hidden Service Descriptor (and therefore the Hidden Service itself) by flooding the Tor daemon with uncountable tcp packets, requesting to build circuits. This is what causes the CPU load and ultimately renders the Hidden Service Descriptor unusable. Can anyone confirm this? Since directives like the said HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSDefense, HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSBurstPerSec and HiddenServiceEnableIntroDoSRatePerSec seem to be meant do defend against this sort of attacks, just as vanguards should too, we cannot explain why those remain ineffective. Maybe some very specialized settings of those values are necessary to make them effective. Unfortunately these directives (as well as the settings in vanguards.config) are only described in a vague way. Does anyone know, how these have to be set correctly to be effective? At this point we exhaused all referneces on tor and vanguards configuration we could find online. Again, any help or information on this issue would be greatly appreciated! We do not believe that there is no solution to this.

In the same year, 2022, Tor Developer Mike Perry provided rare and detailed insights into the funding and development issues of Tor onions.

https://github.com/mikeperry-tor/vanguards/issues/91#issuecomment-1228698338:

We have been seeing sustained attacks from multiple adversaries against onion services, and against the Tor network itself, for the past 3 months. These adversaries are continually adapting to our defenses.

For the past 3 years, we have attempted to get funding for DoS defenses for onion services from various funding sources. Every single one of these funding sources declined to fund onion service development or defenses. Because of the way our funding model works, this proposal-reject churn also delayed development on other tasks. Effectively a DoS attack in and of itself.

During this process, one of the two primary developers on onion services resigned. The other primary onion service developer is currently on leave. In fact, we will only have 2 developers directly devoted to all of C-Tor for the next 6-8 weeks or so, and about half of that developer time will be spent writing and revising other funding proposals during this period. The remainder will be spent performing other already funded work, and related administration tasks.

We do have pending funding for general DoS defenses that should be finalized soon, but that also does not cover onion service development. We will need to show other progress for that funder; any DoS defenses specifically for onion services will still have to be done “on the side”.

Normally, I would not air our dirty laundry like this, but since it will have a direct impact on people like you, it seemed important to explain why we’re going to be especially unresponsive to issues with onion services for the next while.

As per Commits · mikeperry-tor/vanguards · GitHub the last substantial code change in vanguards happened in 2021. There were some minor commits in 2023 but these were only related to Dependabot · GitHub.

A vanguards issue was reported in to TPO in November 2023, got assigned, but stalled.

https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/work_items/40892

More tickets with zero replies:

There was a Tor Project fundraiser in 2023.

Tor Project published a roadmap for improving onion support.

A number of open tickets related to onion services stability.

Understand code performance of onion services under DoS (#33704) · Tor
Research approaches for improving the availability of services under DoS (#31223) · Tor
attacker can force intro point rotation by ddos (#26294) · Tor
DoS resistence measures from C tor (#351) · Arti
(No attempt was made to write an exhaustive list.)

The Tor Project’s focus seems to have since shifted to onions in Arti. [1]

[1] Keep an eye on Arti (Tor)

mrxmr · May 20, 2026, 8:51pm

right now:

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:4 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:6 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

mrxmr · May 21, 2026, 6:37am

10 hours later, still unreachable. The plan is to sit this out, no
matter how long it takes? cc: @arraybolt3 ?

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:2 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:8 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Patrick · May 21, 2026, 8:33am

https://forums.whonix.org/t/forum-onion-unable-to-connect/23107/25

mrxmr · May 27, 2026, 9:48am

Again unreachable. At this point, my experience shows that whonix’s
onion services are less reliable to reaching than debian’s apt repo
ones.

Updating who18gw
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:3 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Hit:4 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Hit:6 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:8 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Ign:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:9 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

mrxmr · June 2, 2026, 8:49am

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/029/223/cover2.jpg

Updating who18ws
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Refreshed.
W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, W:Ignoring file 'qubes-r4.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension, E:Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082], E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Hit:1 tor+http://deb.w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:2 tor+http://deb.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r4.3/vm trixie InRelease
Hit:3 https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial InRelease
Hit:4 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-fasttrack InRelease
Hit:5 tor+https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian-fasttrack trixie-backports-staging InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:7 tor+http://5ajw6aqf3ep7sijnscdzw77t7xq4xjpsy335yb2wiwgouo7yfxtjlmid.onion/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Hit:8 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie InRelease
Ign:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
Err:6 tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease
  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
Hit:9 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-updates InRelease
Hit:10 tor+http://2s4yqjx5ul6okpp3f2gaunr2syex5jgbfpfvhxxbbjwnrsvbk5v3qbid.onion/debian trixie-backports InRelease
Reading package lists...
E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

mrxmr · June 16, 2026, 8:55am

How come kicksecure’s onion repos “never” seems to go down/become unreachable?

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E: Failed to fetch tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease  Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 8082]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Patrick · June 16, 2026, 11:38am

Tools to diagnose this issue do are non-existing. → Forum.onion unable to connect - #3

Server configuration and output of onionprobe is almost identical, except for the places where it necessarily needs to be different. (descriptor, domain name)

Kicksecure:

onionprobe -e w5j6stm77zs6652pgsij4awcjeel3eco7kvipheu6mtr623eyyehj4yd.onion

Whonix:

onionprobe -e dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion

What makes a relevant difference is the state of the Tor user’s local Tor daemon.

I have reproduced multiple times that an unreachable onion becomes reachable after restarting Tor. Similar reports can be found online:

Tor connection dies randomly and needs manual restart

When a Tor restart is required and fixes anything, that can (almost) always be considered a bug in Tor as Tor should be able to recover from this without restart.

I would say “try onionprobe”.

sudo apt update
sudo apt install onionprobe

But the problem is, it’s not compatible with Whonix because onionprobe - I assume by design to avoid above issue - starts a temporary (throwaway) Tor daemon - before probing an onion.

Hence, onionprobe isn’t suitable to be run from within Whonix and only from Debian, Kicksecure or similar. [1]

If running onionprobe from Debian, Kicksecure or similar is fine for anyone, try it.

[1] onionprobe supports --no-launch_tor but requires Tor control protocol access, writing an onion-grater profile might be possible, but it would be a lot work for a non-ideal result using onionprobe different than it’s designed to run by default.

anon80426224 · June 21, 2026, 8:43pm

Is this relevant to this discussion here:

nurmagoz · June 23, 2026, 9:33pm

Onions are reachable atm from my end.

mrxmr · July 4, 2026, 2:34pm

Updating who18gw
Refreshing package info
Refreshing available packages.
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease
Fail to refresh InRelease: tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion trixie InRelease from tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/trixie/InRelease

Decoy01 · July 8, 2026, 8:12am

How would that fix the issue when it directly affected by certain factors. Like your clients circuits/config and the onion clients circuits/config and any containerization like docker that might be bottlenecking bandwidth if setup for repo server.

Decoy01 · July 8, 2026, 8:16am

I would like to state that I too have had issues at times (quite a bit) with the onion repo and forum onion which seem to be hosted on the same server? Is this another factor not being mentioned here?

I suspect this as a reason and possibly (hope not) maybe DoS attempts to slow down the onion for users?

nurmagoz · July 8, 2026, 9:35am

One of the possibilities but not a high one.