Likely going for
0.4.5.9-1) from Debian -- Details of package tor in bullseye in Whonix 16 (Debian
(Pros and cons above in this forum thread.)
Likely going for
One obvious downside of sticking to Debian’s (snail pace) Tor version: missing security/privacy advantages of later Tor releases.
Do we really want to wait two years to benefit from these kinds of advantages i.e. when a new Debian version is released? This negative will only become larger as the Debian stable version ages.
This version is the first alpha release of the 0.4.7.x series. One major feature is Vanguards Lite, from proposal 333, to help mitigate guard discovery attacks against onion services. It also includes numerous bugfixes.
Major features (Proposal 332, onion services, guard selection algorithm):
Clients and onion services now choose four long-lived “layer 2” guard relays for use as the middle hop in all onion circuits. These relays are kept in place for a randomized duration averaging 1 week. This mitigates guard discovery attacks against clients and short-lived onion services such as OnionShare. Long-lived onion services that need high security should still use the Vanguards addon (GitHub - mikeperry-tor/vanguards: Vanguards help guard you from getting vanned...). Closes ticket 40363; implements proposal 333.
Technically isn’t the vanguard plugin applying the longer turnover to onions for all of them?
The specific feature:
We’re using “vanguards full” (not lite):
Should be better?
I wonder if it would make sense to install
anon-shared-build-apt-sources-tpo by default, and to have Whonix Gateway depend on the exact tor version that’s currently bundled in the latest stable Tor Browser release?
Whenever the Whonix Gateway tor version is out of sync with the mainline Tor Browser tor version, it’s a potential fingerprinting hazard.
That would come with some disadvantages documented under Tor integration in Whonix ™ Development Notes starting from:
2. Use latest stable in TPO repository […]
I am not saying it shouldn’t be done. Only linking to previous thoughts to consider before making such a big change.
What versions are provided by
deb.torproject.org is not being kept fully synchronous. It’s contributed, maintained by Peter Palfrader (also a Debian developer) last time I checked. Great year long service btw! However, The Tor Project does not orchestrate TBB and
deb.torproject.org releases being always having the same/compatible versions.
By hard coding a version dependency it would break the build process as soon as
deb.torproject.org changes. When
deb.torproject.org is changed is unpredictable form my point of view.
Indeed. A price to pay for Tor / Tor Browser isolation. But I don’t think it can be resolved without having Tor Browser + Debian
tor package being properly maintained in
packages.debian.org (which is unfortunately highly unlikely for Tor Browser, not happening for a decade or so) while
deb.torproject.org can have different versions (mostly Tor Browser using a newer version than available in
deb.torproject.org but it could also happen vice versa) because it’s all different development teams and release cycles,
deb.torproject.org, Tor core, TBB.
handy for reference:
- Index of /torproject.org/dists/bullseye/main/binary-amd64
Above link still lists:
In other words, not yet available from deb.torproject.org.
Version 0.4.7 will be be stable soon enough.
Is now in the testers repository.
Now in stable repository.
- [tor-announce] Tor stable release 0.4.7.8 - Security Fix
- Stable release 0.4.7.8 - Tor Release Announcement - Tor Project Forum
Please note that at the moment, the full details of the security issue are not yet public as we are waiting on the OS distribution packages to be updated and the network to be on its upgrade path.
This security issue is not affecting the safety of the tor host system itself and is categorized as a Denial of Service thus affecting performance and possibly anonymity.
We STRONGLY recommend anyone on an earlier version to upgrade as soon as possible to tor 0.4.7.8 (this release). OS packages are on the way!
0.4.7.8 not yet available from
deb.torproject.org - refer to Tor integration in Whonix - #19 by Patrick on how to check that has changed. Once available, I upload to
0.4.7.8 is now in all repositories.