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Suggestion and theoritical question

the suggestion:-

i have looked into kvm installation explanation , its very good and detailed but as u know its never going to be better than
adding screenshots and video tutorial for it

what is the easiest thing that we can simply do it? is adding screenshots to ease things more and more

so can u do that ? or do u want me to help with that ? or u have an objection regarding this idea ?

theoritical question:-

why cant we download the QCOW2 directly to the /var/lib/libvirt/images

the idea of how to do that:-

wget -c theURL of QCOW2 to direction /var/lib/libvirt/images with sudo power ?

what is the prevention of making this step ?

thnx

I think screenshots would make it unnecessarily longer and there are too many variables to watch out for that its just best to read the documentation.

why cant we download the QCOW2 directly to the /var/lib/libvirt/images

Its a privileged folder that needs root access so directly downloading to it won’t work. The import step has to be done after verifying the images decompressing them into image files first.

wget -c theURL of QCOW2 to direction /var/lib/libvirt/images with sudo power ?

Running anything connecting to the internet as root is a very dangerous practice because a bug can cause remote root exploitation. I also noticed in your screenshots you are running the KVM steps as root.

You should always try to run as a normal user and elevate privileges only when necessary.

I think screenshots would make it unnecessarily longer and there are too many variables to watch out for that its just best to read the documentation.

true if we r going to user screenshots but how about a short video ?

Running anything connecting to the internet as root is a very dangerous practice because a bug can cause remote root exploitation. I also noticed in your screenshots you are running the KVM steps as root.You should always try to run as a normal user and elevate privileges only when necessary.

sudo not working in jessie i donno why , so i should use su then enter what is necessary. beside there r things in the instructions i should use sudo so i just did as it says.

btw its good thing thats u gonna make the downloading page more accessible but i wonder why u dont add it witha normal whonix download .ova in the website ? so that when we press on download in this page https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Download#Landing we r going to c two tables , table for .ova and table for .libvirt.xz. isnt that better for the sake of availability or accessibility for easing things to the user ?

sudo not working in jessie i donno why
Nothing changed in wheezy vs jessie. Debian usability issue. Instructions just now added here: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Debian#sudoers
btw its good thing thats u gonna make the downloading page more accessible but i wonder why u dont add it witha normal whonix download .ova in the website ? so that when we press on download in this page https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Download#Landing we r going to c two tables , table for .ova and table for .libvirt.xz. isnt that better for the sake of availability or accessibility for easing things to the user ?
This is still TODO: https://phabricator.whonix.org/T195
true if we r going to user screenshots but how about a short video ?

I don’t mind you making a video, however as official maintainer of KVM, I am responsible for the materials and guides I personally author and so I can only officially endorse and link to a video that I made. Its too much maintenance for me unfortunately.

If you do make video tutorials feel free to link to them in your subforum but please also direct users to read the wiki documentation too.

Another option might be separate pages.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM/Installation_Screenshots

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM/Installation_Videos

Then https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM could stay as is.

What do you think?

I don't mind you making a video, however as official maintainer of KVM, I am responsible for the materials and guides I personally author and so I can only officially endorse and link to a video that I made. Its too much maintenance for me unfortunately.

the video is presenting ur instructions in kvm wiki in scenario way , also u can take the video as like u did it, i didnt claim any authorizations over it.

If you do make video tutorials feel free to link to them in your subforum but please also direct users to read the wiki documentation too.

yeah i did already in my first topic in the sub-forum , u can read ur links been mentioned in the sub-forum since they r still in english language.

Another option might be separate pages.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM/Installation_Screenshots

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM/Installation_Videos

Then https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM could stay as is.

What do you think?

Good idea, also we can add that these are guides contributed by users and community members.

the video is presenting ur instructions in kvm wiki in scenario way , also u can take the video as like u did it, i didnt claim any authorizations over it.

Thanks for volunteering to make the material. It would be good if you commit to maintaining it over time if needed.

Pages,

excellent job , will make that soon

this is a sample of the work and i need ur opinions or any suggestions. this is going to be for very beginners to whonix or linux in general, what i care is what ppl gonna c have after they press enter.

http://i.imgur.com/GRxPu0n.png is wrong as per:
https://www.whonix.org/forum/index.php/topic,1372.0.html

Wishlist:

  • always arrows
  • prettier arrows

Maybe HulaHoop has other comments also.

ok cool , going to maintain that. anything else ? hope hulahoop join us

Good so far, but please crop the screencaps to focus on the commands and instructions. No need to show the rest of the blank console.

ok , then in this case we dont need arrows because the screen will be zoomed or limited to the commands and the results after pressing enter.

now what do u think about this sample:- (size will be fixed dont worry but just look at the screenshot)

the final result:- (it will look better i think in the website)

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm libvirt-bin virt-manager

sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/TEMPLATE.qemu /etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/TEMPLATE.kvm

sudo addgroup "$(whoami)" libvirt

sudo addgroup "$(whoami)" kvm

sudo reboot

virsh -c qemu:///system net-autostart default
virsh -c qemu:///system net-start default

[font=verdana]To get the qcow2 images please open the latest version numbered folder you see in this link and find the files ending in *libvirt.xz:[/font]
http://mirror.whonix.de/

tar -xvf ~/Whonix-Gateway-*.libvirt.xz
tar -xvf ~/Whonix-Workstation-*.libvirt.xz

virsh -c qemu:///system define Whonix-Gateway*.xml
virsh -c qemu:///system net-define Whonix_network*.xml
virsh -c qemu:///system net-autostart Whonix
virsh -c qemu:///system net-start Whonix
virsh -c qemu:///system define Whonix-Workstation*.xml

sudo mv Whonix-Gateway*.qcow2 /var/lib/libvirt/images/Whonix-Gateway.qcow2

sudo mv Whonix-Workstation*.qcow2 /var/lib/libvirt/images/Whonix-Workstation.qcow2

Start Menu -> Applications -> System -> Virtual Machine Manager

click on Whonix-Gateway -> click open -> click the play symbol

check the wiki page:-

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM/Installation_Screenshots

u can add notes or lines …etc if u want.

the sad thing that the wiki cant accept the images which exceed the 400px and my images were 1200px :frowning: .

anyone who claim to do better than this work hes free to change whatever he want

if u have any comments on the wiki dont be shy to mention them.

the sad thing that the wiki cant accept the images which exceed the 400px and my images were 1200px :( .
Not really? There are bigger images on https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VirtualBox. What works on that wiki page should work on any wiki page. You can just change 400px to 1200px where useful. See also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images

good thnx , i thought the wiki going to do that automatically.

i have resized them all to 1200 except the last 4 screenshots because each 2 of them explaining one line so i have put 468px for each because its the mixmum size that u can reach to keep 2 screenshots side by side (horizontal order) . otherwise if i increase it more it will flip down (vertical order).

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