To define something by saying what it’s not is often very bad. Non-Qubes-Whonix is god-awful. Non-Qubes-Whonix means Non-Qubes and Non-Whonix or Non-QubesWhonix?
Which then also leads to - due the lack of any better - weird names like Non-Qubes Debian.
Also rather than calling it Qubes-Whonix we could consider changing all:
Working on making Configuration Files - Kicksecure Whonix unspecific, since it applies to most in not all linux distribution. There my question:
What are the most/most popular configuration drop-in folders? Or perhaps that’s difficult to research… What are the configuration drop-in folders that you are using? (These will be used as examples.)
OK. I’ll just wait as unman is in no hurry it appears.
Better.
I’m not gonna sweat the small Whonix TM stuff at the minute. Too much else that is important to work on. Maybe later.
Better.
This is better IMO. The others are too wordy.
Only if they don’t understand what “Non-Qubes Debian and Non-Qubes-Whonix” means. Also quite small sections. “Non-Qubes Debian” could just be renamed as “Debian” for clarity in the interim.
I think it’s clear enough. The better solution might be Patrick’s idea → rename the convoluted distro variants that currently exist everywhere (although it will no doubt cause a thousand wiki breaks ala Whonix TM of late).
Whonix-VirtualBox ™ (Don’t have rights to VirtualBox trademark.)
Whonix-KVM ™ (Don’t have rights to KVM trademark.)
Whonix-Qubes ™ (Qubes is a partner.)
?
The latter fits better wit the established writing of:
Whonix-Gateway ™
Whonix-Workstation ™
but has ™ issues.
And then also
Whonix-Gateway-VirtualBox ™ (Don’t have rights to VirtualBox trademark.)
Whonix-Gateway-KVM ™ (Don’t have rights to KVM trademark.)
Whonix-Gateway-Qubes ™ (Qubes is a partner.)
OR
Whonix-VirtualBox-Gateway ™ (Don’t have rights to VirtualBox trademark.)
Whonix-KVM-Gateway ™ (Don’t have rights to KVM trademark.)
Whonix-Qubes-Gateway ™ (Qubes is a partner.)
OR
VirtualBox Whonix-Gateway ™
KVM Whonix-Gateway ™
Qubes Whonix-Gateway ™
OR
Whonix-Gateway ™ VirtualBox
Whonix-Gateway ™ KVM
Whonix-Gateway ™ Qubes
?
Some combinations don’t fit well with ™.
I am not too worried just yet. Renaming of terms that include somethingQubessomething and somethingWhonixsomething already done (™ added) and not too much broke in the wiki. Since these terms are templates now, changing them might be as easy as changing the wiki template. In theory.
looks more elegant but could be confusing. “Whonix Qubes” is a certain type of Qubes. Whonix is an adjective in this case. Sounds like we have revised Qubes in some way. Not correct.
(Although I don’t like the decision to do TM all over the place. I don’t remember any other distro doing that e.g. Debian, Windows etc. It seems excessive if you are reading Whonix TM on every 5th line. Better to just highlight the TM issues on whonix.org main page or main ToC IMO. )
This would be consistent with above, and no trademark infringements as you say.
Welcome sheep - you contributions are most welcome & we’d love to see you join the regular editing team BTW.
Easy fix → the conjunction: Whonix-Qubes.
Glad someone else is noticing the finer stuff. Please consider editing proper (most Whonixers are scared for some reason, except for a few regulars).
Non-ideal indeed. It might be changed as I improve my legal understanding. Low priority though.
Me neither, but others don’t necessarily work towards maximal legal protections. A lot legal knowledge aggregated in non-FLOSS fields was never even considered the FLOSS world (or so invisible that very few got aware). If that sounds cryptic, here are two examples where I elaborated:
* Context - How has this issue affected you? What are you trying to accomplish? Providing context helps us come up with a solution that is most useful in the real world.
We are using The Whonix-devel Archives as much as possible if we communicate with e-mail based issue trackers such as Debian BTS, contact other e-mail lists or individuals. It’s a useful public archive of communications. Where could we add the link to our archive The Whonix-devel Archives in our wiki?