Auto-Resume Downloads

[shoe]

Hi,

when I download files in TOR with some websites the download fails after a while. In the TOR download manager you can click the little circular-arrow “Retry” icon and it will resume downloading from where it left (and not from the beginning of the file). However often I would have to press that icon 10 to 100 times for bigger files to finish.

I could make those downloads outside of Whonix/TOR since it is nothing security related - however I switched a while back entirely to Whonix and this is one of the main problems I am still having.

My questions:

1. is failing downloads generally a bad sign and a possible attempt for deanonymisation? The problem is not on my end. I don’t know why the download fails, but I assume it is the server who closes it somehow (can I debug this?)

2. I think there is no add-on (since the Firefox API doesn’t offer it) to auto-resume failed downloads automatically. What is the preferred way to work around this problem? Use something like CURL for download - or does this make fingerprinting super easy?

3. Alternatively one could install Chromium (since auto-resume add-ons exist). However I guess this would also make fingerprinting easier and add a whole level of possible attack vectors (flatpak, Chromium, the add-on itself, etc.)

What do you think/recommend?

[Patrick]

@shoe

is failing downloads generally a bad sign and a possible attempt for deanonymisation?

General Tor / anonymity question -> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Free_Support_Principle applies.

@shoe

What is the preferred way to work around this problem?

Secure Command Line / Tor Browser Downloads

@shoe

Use something like CURL for download - or does this make fingerprinting super easy?

I am not aware into any research of this. curl is far less complex than Tor Browser. I would be surprised if fingerprinting curl is easier than Firefox / Tor Browser which has far more fingerprinting surface.

Also General Tor / anonymity question -> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Free_Support_Principle applies.

Related:

Browser Tests - Whonix

@shoe

Alternatively one could install Chromium (since auto-resume add-ons exist).

Discouraged as per:

Tor Browser Basics

Related:

Chromium

@shoe

flatpak

related:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Install_Software#flatpak

[shoe]

@Patrick

I am not aware into any research of this. curl is far less complex than Tor Browser. I would be surprised if fingerprinting curl is easier than Firefox / Tor Browser which has far more fingerprinting surface.

Well, 99.9% of users in the TOR network, use the TOR browser. Using scurl or anything else but the TOR browser would make one stick out like a sore thumb, no? Doesn’t curl also send something like a 'user-agent- signature? For TOR browser the user-agents are all identical. I don’t assume curl would imitate TOR browser, right?

[Patrick]

@shoe

Using scurl or anything else but the TOR browser would make one stick out like a sore thumb, no?

Look into the amount of information web servers can get from browsers.

For one: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Browser_Tests

there are unresolved tbb-fingerprinting [archive] and tbb-linkability [archive] issues.

(Links not updated yet. Use archived version or search yourself in new Tor Project issue tracker.)

Also General Tor / anonymity question -> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Free_Support_Principle applies.

@shoe

I don’t assume curl would imitate TOR browser, right?

No, it doesn’t. It would be futile to attempt.

[yonited]

TOR network is not any good for downloading files, it is only good for browsing and moderately watching and streaming videos