so I chose to uninstall and reinstall, changing all appvms and sys-whonix-14 to “dummy” template
also changed the ws-dvm to dummy and changed all dispvm prefs to non whonix-ws
on removing the qubes-template-whonix-gw-14 it worked but I go these messages
Running transaction
Erasing : qubes-template-whonix-gw-14-4.0.1-201901231238.noarch 1/1
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/whitelisted-appmenus.list: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/vm-whitelisted-appmenus.list: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/root.img.part.01: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/root.img.part.00: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/netvm-whitelisted-appmenus.list: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/icon.png: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/clean-volatile.img.tar: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/apps.templates: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/apps.tempicons: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/apps: remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14: remove failed: No such file or directory
Verifying : qubes-template-whonix-gw-14-4.0.1-201901231238.noarch
I then ran
sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix
after 5-10 minutes I saw some popups that it was starting sys-whonix then halting it, and now after 30 minutes I see nothing happening
now I do see a whonix-ws-14 Template but no whonix-gw Template , not sure why it installed “14” again
I can let it run overnight, but I really don’t want to create “an unstable system” (which btw the URL it links to is broken How-to: Install the Stable Version of Qubes-Whonix ™ 16 )
so what do I do next ?
PS: my sys-whonix-14 still says -14 I assume what could happen is the qubesctl is supposed to create a new sys-whonix-15 or would I just be changing the Template from ‘dummy’ to the new whonix-gw-15 if it ever happens, and rename the AppVM myself to -15
PPS: the install is NOT via Tor obviously I’m not sure who that would even be possible, if one hasn’t a whonix-gw-14 Template installed ??!
final edit
4th edit, so finally on broadband it took 30 minutes + but it install -14 not -15 so what now