Whonix on Mac M1 (ARM) - User Support (still unsupported at time of writing)

Patrick · September 20, 2021, 7:59pm

phirestalker:

I would like to make a suggestion about the current functioning of swdate. When the time is an hour or more different from the UTC time, I do not believe it should only be considered a warning. I would ask that you make it an error that does not allow a tor connection, or at least put a big red warning sign that it could compromise your anonymity when swdategui loads.

That is really complex. Not your suggestion but overall secure network time synchronization design is really complex.

This chapter might explain it best.

To discuss this further, please open a dedicated forum thread for that or use sdwdate and sdwdate-gui development thread.

That should probably be the default.

phirestalker · September 20, 2021, 9:27pm

Funny thing, it is the default in Qemu according to what I read, and there is not mention of the setting in the UTM plist file for Whonix to change it. I guess it is something UTM changed in their code for the bundled qemu helper?

Will look at the info for swdate you linked, thank you.

phirestalker · September 25, 2021, 4:06pm

OK, this is odd. I do not see anything in the plists for Whonix about time, but in the qemu options it shows -rtc base=localtime being passed to qemu. I have no idea where this setting is coming from. I was able to add -rtc base=utc, but it seems like a bad solution to have both settings passed to qemu. I will contact UTM developer and see if it is something he puts in.

EDIT:
There is already an issue with UTM project for this. https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/3104

MikeLime-dev · October 13, 2021, 1:47am

Hi could anyone share the UTM files for whonix gateway and workstation please? Thank you

Hans · October 14, 2021, 1:20pm

Maybe ready image for all?

phirestalker · October 14, 2021, 4:25pm

I built version 16.0.2.8 and still have the gz files for UTM.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g5N0XLtonNCvuQAgyQNjV_oQth2ZBe7x/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ehN5UzMT-um80Xg0P2keDmcQnzgSp8kj/view?usp=sharing

For there to be ready images, someone trusted by the developers and therefore the community would need to sign the builds. Otherwise, someone could put anything in the built images.

w0lf · October 18, 2021, 7:10am

thank you all for this amazing build, I also got it working in mac M1 with UTM

Hans · October 19, 2021, 9:36am

You are the best Thank you

Uli · October 27, 2021, 2:19pm

Hey! Thanks for the images, they are working. But I have another question, how to start Tor Browser in Workstation? At startup, an error occurs that the arm architecture does not support sse2 instructions.

I also tried to install the version for arm using the tor-deb-repo instruction on the Tor website, but at the moment of sudo apt update, an error occurs.

I can’t beat her. Are there any other ways to get Tor up and running?

Patrick · October 27, 2021, 4:15pm

Please kindly do not accidentally substitute Tor for a question related to Tor Browser, as this causes confusion.

Patrick · October 27, 2021, 4:24pm

Please review:

− -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=external
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=internal \ -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=internal
− -netdev ~~user~~,id=~~external~~,~~ipv6~~=~~off,net=10.0.2.0/24~~ \ + -netdev socket,id=internal,connect=:8010
− -netdev socket,id=internal,listen=:8010 \

Grenmill (talk | contribs | block) rollback 1 edit

Workstation should connect to Gateway socket, not listen. Also it should not have external network

phirestalker · October 27, 2021, 9:56pm

I just ran update-torbrowser in the terminal. This will download the latest M1 build of torbrowser bundle and install it. You can run it periodically to check for an update.

WARNING: The update script will wipe out your entire browser settings, so if you customize settings you will need to export them and then reimport them upon updating.

bash · October 28, 2021, 5:03am

This may be a dumb question and I will delete it if so. Am i wrong that UTM can emulate x86 on Apple Silicon albeit at lower performance? Would it not be simpler to run cli gateway on M1 emulating x86? Again sorry if this is too off topic.

Uli · October 28, 2021, 10:39am

You are the best!

w0lf · October 28, 2021, 11:27pm

Anyone know how to configure discard=on qemu args for the drive in UTM? After importing the VMs the size get thick provisioned to 100+ gb

bash · November 1, 2021, 7:00am

Has anyone noticed that with UTM the system clock will after time lag behind the correct time. timedatectl will show the correct time for RTC but local time will eventually run behind. I will post a ticket on UTM github just curious if anyone else is seeing this. hwclock -s fixes the issue and I guess I could setup a crontab. heh

Sholenka · November 4, 2021, 4:45pm

I’m trying to build the images in a Debian VM according to the building instructions. When doing

sudo apt-get install git time curl apt-cacher-ng lsb-release fakeroot dpkg-dev fasttrack-archive-keyring

I get the error that the package fasttrack-archive-keyring can’t be located

Patrick · November 6, 2021, 7:51am

Whonix 16 needs to be to build on Debian bullseye.

In other words Debian -- Details of package fasttrack-archive-keyring in bullseye needs to be installed as usual using apt, the process of that is unspecific to Whonix.

Sholenka · November 29, 2021, 3:35pm

Doing

git clone --depth=1 --branch 16.0.3.7-stable --jobs=4 --recurse-submodules --shallow-submodules https://gitlab.com/whonix/Whonix.git

gives

warning: Could not find remote branch 16.0.3.7-stable to clone.

fatal: Remote branch 16.0.3.7-stable not found in upstream origin

Patrick · November 30, 2021, 9:33am

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Dev/Build_Documentation/VM#Choose_Version