Should we contact ura design? (design for your Open Source project)

i would go with templates style guide & documentation (if they meant to design it)

but one thing i hope it wont happen

well i hope they have alternative to JS , any other language (ruby,python,html…etc) because of noscript+TBB.

but in the end it all matters on how much they want on their work , and how is their work going to be (fantastic , good , accepted , sucks …)

Which services should we request?

All of them if possible (once we find out more about the rest). From what I see they offer something more than just a redesign - the opportunity to create a coherent an appealing image to non-techies and advise on outreach strategies to the said group.

What would be appropriate offers for compensation?

Up to you. Formally you “don’t have to” but to feel right about it you can arrange to pay a flat sum per task proportional to Whonix donations.

Logo:
They seem most suited for logo refinement. Keeping the visual elements but flipping them with some ill Berlin graff stilo would be dope, I mean, refining the elements so as to more clearly communicate (:

E.g., the spacing around the lock should match the spacing between letters.

Brand Identity:
Fuck “Brands”. However, the visual identity is very important. I was not able to locate any examples of this on their site.

Templates Style Guide:
This might be up their alley, though I was not able to locate any examples of this on their site, either.

Documentation:
Their site says “Support us on Pantreon”. I am not confident that they will do documentation to the desired level of precision.

Consultancy:
They are using Patreon, which uses CloudFlare Internet Identity Services to actively attack Tor users. I am not confident that they will make good designations in this regard.

Wordlife,
Spencer

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Good day,

To be fair, Whonix is currently collecting donations over Flatter and PayPal, especially the latter being rather limiting when it comes to traffic via Tor and rather open when it comes to collecting and sharing information about transactions. So, not considering their consultance on the fact that they use Patreon would be rather hypocritical in my opinion.

Have a nice day,

Ego

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Hey guys!

Elio here, Founder of ura. Terribly sorry for the delay, your email landed in my spam folder unfortunately. I just saw it.

Before addressing your concerns, I want to emphasize that we are just one and a half people behind ura (it’s me and a friend who helps out occassionally) so a good bunch of things you have pointed out are due to change and be improved. It’s not like I intentionally designed the way we work like that and it’s set in stone. I’d be happy to take your feedback into account and do necessary change if fit.

Also, don’t forget that I have no security background, but a graphic design one (although I try to advocate about privacy). I use Fedora 23, Thunderbird and ownCloud so no worries, I’m not that classic designer with a Mac (I hate Apple). Check out this article also: http://blog.jonasoberg.net/bootstrapping-freedom-and-openness/

As well it’s hard earning a living in a proprietary world with FLOSS, so I set up a Patreon page so people can support me supporting FLOSS projects without a budget for design. I didn’t know Patreon attacks Tor users as well, so I will see what alternative I have about that.

In any case, I’d be happy to show you more of our work, especially since I haven’t put up much on our website yet, so I’d be happy to discuss here.

A short intro about me:

I have been part of Mozilla since early 2013, and since then I created over 25 logos used within various Mozilla projects [1]. I’m also responsible for the Community Design initiative within Mozilla, which offers contributors tools and pathways to get involved with Design at Mozilla, while working in tandem closely with the Mozilla Creative Team.

Furthermore, I have been Board Member of Open Labs Hackerspace [2] in Tirana, Albania since early 2013 as well. I’ve organized, facilitated and designed materials for events in this period of time for various Free Software & Open Source projects. I’m also co-organizer of OSCAL (Open Source Conference Albania) [3], one of the largest FLOSS conferences in the region. We are organizing the third edition in May.

There are several other FLOSS projects I’m involved in as a designer, such as Fedora (currently an Ambassador), Glucosio, GalliumOS, openSUSE and others. I’m also a mentor this year for FOSSASIA at Google Summer of Code.

Furthermore I am also an Author and Community Manager for SitePoint [4].


Enough about me, looking forward to talk to you!

[1] http://elioqoshi.me/en/mozilla-logos/
[2] https://openlabs.cc/
[3] http://oscal.openlabs.cc/
[4] Elio Qoshi, Author at SitePoint

Do your services include consulting…? Specifically a new Whonix home page is being developed at this moment by @Ego.

That draft will be switched from a dark to a bright design. The goal is to have a homepage with a much higher usability. Much clearer explanation of what Whonix is. More modern style. With a much lower bounce rate hopefully. Once it has been moved to the bright design… Would you be up to comment on the usability aspects?

Hey Patrick,

Yeah, I do consulting as well. If you can implement the changes according to gathered feedback we can do that. Another alternative would be that I could send you a landing page design of the new draft on how I would envision it.

Let me know if you want to discuss details.

btw, your logo could benefit of being simplified. This would make it much more approachable and appropriate for small screens (like smartphones). What would you think?

About the website consultation, we get back to that once it was switched to a bright design.

About the logo, simplification is one thing, another thing would be to create a new logo from scratch. And yet another thing would be to change the project name as well as the logo. Ideally to something more descriptive. I don’t like the name “Whonix” too much. If you mention “Whonix” to someone not knowing what that is, they understand “unix”. Terrible. A name that would be best understood in most languages would be best.

I agree. Would you consider rebranding as well? If yes we can do that too, just tell me to what extent you’d like to go

There should be no limits. Just for something as big as changing the
project name would have very encouraging motivation to outweigh the work
generated by it.

What do you think about Safe OS? It’s very approachable by people outside the community, as the title explains already what it’s about. It’s SEO friendly and simple.

Here is a quick proposal, what do you think?

(Nice logo!)

IMO, SafeOS is a bit too generic and can be interpreted to mean “technically secure”. There are multiple OSes that make that claim.

The keywords that distinguish Whonix are:

  1. privacy
  2. freedom
  3. not sure what the right word is here… “protection from your own mistakes” (ie idiot-proof, though we probably shouldn’t say that :slight_smile: )

Also should avoid any negative connotations: dark, shadow, stealth, etc…

Thinking out-loud: how to combine brightness, transparency, freedom with privacy? privacy is usually associated with darkness, secretiveness…

Great comments!

How about Keyward? It looks very elegant in my opinion. Or Keybond

I also don’t think we should refrain from a name because it is too generic, look at CoreOS for example.

  • Since Freedom & Privacy are intertwined, we don’t necessarily need to invoke privacy explicitly - focus on freedom instead.
  • Privacy can also be expressed as peace, quiet, meditation.

Tagline ideas:
“___” OS

  • “The Privacy to be Yourself”
  • “The Freedom to Be Me”

CareFree OS (ironic since Whonix users are paranoid)
BeMe OS
BFree OS
MyScape OS
FreeScape OS
Unbound, unchained, unshackled (too negative)
FlyFree (airline miles?)
Light + protective garment / shield
True / Real OS

Right. I think generic names are fine as long as they speak to a core competency. CoreOS focuses on minimalism, essentials so Core is very appropriate to use.

I like where this is going!

I wouldn’t use CareFree because of this :wink: http://www.carefreeliners.com/
MyScape reminds too much of MySpace I think.
True/Real OS might be too arrogant (let’s not give ourselves too much credit).

I like Lightshield OS or Prism OS (but Prism might have a bad meaning after the NSA revelations).

What about SentinelOS ?

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Some inspiration: Lightbeam from Mozilla:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightbeam/

What do you think about:

FlashOS
BrightOS
ClearOS

Many good ideas… Hopefully others will comment soon - making choices hurts my brain.

LOL. They seem quite protective to me! Plus might have positive connotations for both of the women who use Whonix. :wink:

Gotta give NSA credit - they’re good at taking all the cool names… (though didn’t stop Purism OS)

Hi Elio! Thanks for choosing to help us :slight_smile:

Some naming ideas:

PrivatOS
CryptOS

I like the second one more because Crypt means buried or hidden also encryption of course which has privacy connotations.