Long Wiki Edits Thread

Hi Obrand - that looks like a pretty good structure.

From my editing experience I find that by first writing / fixing the content, this lends itself to the obvious structure that is needed afterwards, as well as obvious holes in material that need more references or other fixes.

I look forward to seeing it! :slight_smile:

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Wow, that were quite a few required fixes…

Done. :slight_smile:

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1. Fixed DoNot page so it has some structure (was a mess of bullet points before).

2. Re: Special:Log/newusers

I gather it is fair to assume that a large proportion of these accounts are bogus, soon-to-be-used-for-spam accounts if they have zero contribs and have never said squat in forums.

I wonder if Whonix should be proactive and auto-delete accounts, say older than 12 months, that have never been active in any shape or form for either wiki or forum contributions.

For instance, in that 1st page stretching back to late 2016, I see maybe 38/50 accounts that fall into that category.

3. Will try and sort out this gpg fingerprint page next (when I have some time).

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I would think that many account where set up and forgotten about. It should also be considered that some forum members have accounts set up to email threads/posts from categories they are interested in i.e. Qubes-Whonix, KVM etc. Just because they are not active does not indicate they are not benefiting or being educated from forum posts. Is also should be considered some members have backup accounts. For example I recently used mine to post some comments in the “Why Facebook is Cancer” thread. :smile:

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torjunkie:

2. Re: Special:Log/newusers

I gather it is fair to assume that a large proportion of these accounts are bogus, soon-to-be-used-for-spam accounts if they have zero contribs and have never said squat in forums.

I wonder if Whonix should be proactive and auto-delete accounts, say older than 12 months, that have never been active in any shape or form for either wiki or forum contributions.

For instance, in that 1st page stretching back to late 2016, I see maybe 38/50 accounts that fall into that category.

If they are bots, they managed to circumvent the registration process
spam protections but then failed to circumvent the spam posting protections.

Since registration spam protections haven’t been improved, it is fair to
assume they could create new accounts any time. Since it’s mostly
programs running, that failed, I think these are just database slug and
now inactive. Therefore I am not convinced the effort to get rid of
those would help to prevent future spam.

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Related changes:

http://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/w/index.php?title=Template:Open_/etc/tor/torrc&oldid=33148

http://www.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/w/index.php?title=Bridges&oldid=33149

Could anyone help me to review it please?

TODO:

  1. Could anyone help me to create a template that exactly called Open_/usr/local/etc/torrc.d/50_user.conf please? To be more specific, the template should be used as {{Open_/usr/local/etc/torrc.d/50_user.conf}}
  2. Copy related content in template Open_/etc/tor/torrc to the new template.
  3. Add content below in the 50_user.conf template:

{{mbox
| type = notice
| image = [[File:Ambox_notice.png|40px|alt=Info]]
| text = Since Whonix 14, all user’s own Tor configurations should go to {{Code2|/usr/local/etc/torrc.d/50_user.conf}}, not anywhere else. Please be aware that Whonix will not modify the /usr/local/etc/torrc.d/50_user.conf once it is created, which means you are fully responsible for adding and removing configurations in it.
}}

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My personal experience with editing Whonix Wiki is not perfect:

  • I am not familiar enough with the Wikimedia syntax currently
  • the account is usually logged out automatically after a certain period of time
  • Working in Tor Browser makes every single redirection and loading time-consuming
  • have to manually (search does not always get desired result) find the template in the special page (which is kind of hidden) and then modify it.
  • have to click history to get a clean URL reference to the changes

Therefore, I would like to say thank you from my heart to everyone who has been contributing to the Wiki.

Thank you for the great effort and work!!

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Hi iry

I can relate to that. I’m currently editing/rewriting Leak Protection and its taking a little longer than I originally had hoped. Its mostly monkey-see-monkey-do , I see the syntax used in other wiki pages to get a desired result, I do the same. Plus I’m not as experienced as most of the regular wiki contributors (whonix/anonymity wise) so I have to research to make sure the content is correct which takes even more time. Its something I am enjoying doing though. I will say I have a new found respect for past and present wiki editors. Its not easy.

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Reviewed.

Created. I just put a “.” in there. Enter the text you like and I’ll edit it later on for wording. :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much for your help, @torjunkie !

All Done:

http://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/w/index.php?title=Template:Open_/usr/local/etc/torrc.d/50_user.conf&action=history

http://www.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/w/index.php?title=Bridges&oldid=33162

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I bursted out laughing when seeing this cause I can totally related to that. :smile:

Me, too!

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I’m going to work my through all the pages in the main ToC and standardize at the bottom as follows (unless there are complaints about it, or reasons not to. Already done a few.):

= Footnotes =

= License =
{{License_Amnesia|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}

{{Footer}}

[[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:Design]] etc.

I haven’t gone crazy yet, because I want to check that the new license should be on every page. Obviously the only time the new Encrypted Support LP license wouldn’t be used is when it’s stuff borrowed from elsewhere e.g. JonDos and so on.

BTW “Footnotes” section is technically better than “References” because the former can include citations and general explanatory notes, while the latter is technically only meant to include citations.

PS the [[Warning]] page I’m sure is an old published version.

I’m sure I fixed it more than a year or 18 months ago? Can you check please if there is a contemporary version available i.e. clean English and updated? I don’t (won’t) wanna edit things twice over from scratch, as it is very laborious.

We should probably also add a “Maintainer” insert on every main page and if its not allocated to someone (the majority of pages in existence), then it could just list “Whonix team” as the owner.

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It defaults to Whonix team. So I rather not add it everywhere to keep the pages short.

Maintainer template: It’s only few (for now) a few pages where the author (or a subset team) has the sole responsibility. A disclaimer. For content that is good to have, shouldn’t be refused, but too complex to be thoroughly checked.

The maintainer template is also very badly presented. Example:

Nymservers

About this Nymservers Page
Support Status stable
Difficulty medium
Maintainer HulaHoop
Support Support

Contents
[hide]

Tons of white space everywhere. The user has to scroll a lot until the actual page starts. First impression is “wtf is this about”. If we had some proper website style it may be different.

All pages:

  • not all have footnotes, so we don’t need it everywhere
  • for stylistic reasons we can drop some things at some pages
  • {{License_Amnesia|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} is for wiki pages where content was imported from the Tails website only. Amnesia is the name Tails used in their copyright files. This long message is to be 100% compliant with GPL. Therefore,

Comparison of different variants: Difference between revisions - Whonix

doesn’t make sense.

The bridges page is such as case. It has the copyright on top of the wiki page as a html comment so anyone reading the html content could read it.

<!--
Copyright:

   Whonix Bridges wiki page Copyright (C) Amnesia <amnesia at boum dot org>
   Whonix Bridges wiki page Copyright (C) 2012 - 2018 ENCRYPTED SUPPORT LP <adrelanos@riseup.net>
   
   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
   the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or
   (at your option) any later version.
         
   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
   GNU General Public License for more details.
      
   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
   along with this program; if not, write to:

    Free Software Foundation, Inc. 
    51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor
    Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA.

On Debian GNU/Linux systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public
License can be found in the /usr/share/common-licenses' directory.
The complete text of the GNU General Public License can also be found online on gnu.org <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>, in Whonix virtual machine images in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3 file or on Github <https://github.com/Whonix/Whonix/blob/master/GPLv3>.
-->

Additionally it has a volunteer (not required by law) comment which was a friendly and useful suggestion by intrigeri years ago.

<!--
This wiki page is a fork of the Tails Tor Bridge Mode page, from this exact source <http://git.immerda.ch/?p=amnesia.git;a=blob;f=wiki/src/doc/first_steps/startup_options/bridge_mode.mdwn;hb=b4c1868fc9d59b6a1cb6d0e956ece5c92059c653>.
-->

{{License_Amnesia|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} at the bottom of that page is mandatory by GPL as far as I understood years ago. The GPL forked program has to show a copyright notice. The website is the “program” here. Perhaps my understanding could be revisited and upgraded. Perhaps even a shorter acknowledgement (click to expand or link or so) would be acceptable by law. The discussion could be rehashed with the Tails developers.


For wiki pages without any third party content, Template:Footer - Whonix is sufficient. That is what there isn’t a ENCRYPTED SUPPORT LP license template.

Will fix.

Sure. No worries. Everything is in the wiki history.

OK - didn’t realize all that! Reject all those edits then from today. Thanks re: apparmor stuff too - giving me a real schooling lately :blush:

Busy next few weeks, so will have limited editing time. Should be better in March…

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Nice you have set up bank payment options for various currencies/countries too for Whonix. Good move. :slight_smile:

Updated Release notes re:

  • Fixed whonixcheck apparmor profile.
  • Whonix News anonymous count of users via whonixcheck.
  • Tor Browser segfault fix in Qubes-Whonix.
  • Port of anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor to systemd socket activation.
  • Corrected the detection method for KVM virtualization.

Please add any other recent fixes I missed.

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Hi torjunkie

I should be finished with “Leak Protection” today. I have a couple questions though.

  • Most of the references have both the original website and web citation. I’m only using 1 of them. Should I use both when possible?
  • Is there a specific wiki page I should try to emulate? e.g. Header=color blue , use a specific text type for specific things etc.?
    That was a bad example. What I was trying to convey was some wiki pages may look more professional than others i.e. formatting wise? If so is there a good example of how a page should look?
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Webcitation should stay. It is in case the original goes offline.
Original should stay since well, it’s the original and webcitation might go offline.

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Done, warning page fixed.

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Done!

https://www.whonix.org/w/index.php?title=Security_in_Real_World&oldid=33081&diff=cur

I had most of the formatting done so I couldn’t do this.

I tried to write the page so it would be easy for non-geeks to understand. (The reason for the Hypervisor analogy and the “User Mistakes” Alice example at the end). I didn’t put any links to wiki/tunnels because I thought it would take away from what example was about i.e. user mistakes not VPNs.

Hope the edits are OK. Please let me know if anything I need re-write/edit. Also any feed back (areas I need to improve) would be appreciated!

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