Connections drop on Tor 0.4.8.9

In this case, Tor Generic Bug Reproduction is required.

related:
Vanguards - Tor Anonymity Improvement chapter Log Analysis in Whonix wiki

Confirmed. I was able to reproduce download issues using update-torbrowserand Tor Browser internal updater.

After a Tor version downgrade, these issues were fixed.

I wasn’t able to reproduce this. Something unrelated? Using a custom workstation with its own Tor or Tor Browser installed and Tor over Tor?

This seems to be unrelated to this issue, I’m seeing these messages with tor 0.4.7.16-1 as well.
I’m not using custom workstation and there shouldn’t be any tor running in any qubes connected to sys-whonix.
I’ll try to check it to be sure.

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Please move the potentially unrelated issue to a separate forum thread if it’s still an issue.
(It can be linked from here if you think it’s related.)

Due to the confirmed issue in this forum thread, I have removed the newer Tor version from deb.kicksecure.com. In other words, Whonix users who upgrade won’t receive the broken Tor version.

  • Users who already upgraded and are affected by this issue: Can downgrade the Tor version. This is now documented here: Tor Version Downgrade
  • Users who did not upgrade yet: Won’t be affected by this issue.

I’ve checked this in debian-12-xfce based qube with firefox-esr and I don’t have this issue there:

ii  tor                                     0.4.8.9-1~d12.bookworm+1                amd64        anonymizing overlay network for TCP
ii  vanguards                               0.3.1-2.3                               all          Additional protections for Tor Onion Services
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After trying it one more time after rebooting the qube instead of restarting tor/vanguards services the issue occurred in this qube as well:

Nov 25 07:14:34 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:34 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 1 dropped cell on circ 8 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:34 tstqube vanguards[578]: NOTICE[Sat Nov 25 07:14:34 2023]: We force-closed circuit 8
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 1 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: NOTICE[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: We force-closed circuit 11
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 2 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 3 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 4 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 5 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)
Nov 25 07:14:56 tstqube vanguards[578]: WARNING[Sat Nov 25 07:14:56 2023]: Possible Tor bug, or possible attack if very frequent: Got 6 dropped cell on circ 11 (in state CONFLUX_LINKED None; old state CONFLUX_UNLINKED None)

So it seems to be a generic tor/vanguards bug.

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This needs to be reported to upstream, The Tor Project, the developers of Tor.

most likely here:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/new

Also reproducible without vanguards installed?

I can’t reproduce it without vanguards, the clearnet sites are not breaking.
I guess it needs to be reported to vanguards then.

Yes.

Is this only reproducible in Qubes-Whonix or also in Non-Qubes-Whonix (such as Whonix for VirtualBox)?

Is this only reproducible in Qubes Debian templates or also reproducible on real (non-Qubes) Debian?

Reproducible in Whonix for VirtualBox too.

Weirdly, I couldn’t reproduce this issue on Debian (non-Qubes) yet.


In summary.

reproducible in:

  • Qubes-Whonix
  • Non-Qubes-Whonix
  • Qubes Debian

not reproducible in:

  • non-Qubes, real Debian

Tor Project bug report:

vanguards bug report:

Qubes bug report:

I’ve tested this in debian-12 VM in KVM and I can reproduce the issue.
Check if vanguards is running, the service is not enabled by default when it’s installed.
Also the issue seems to be occurring after some time will pass when you visit a few sites or wait a few minutes.

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Maybe only VMs are causing this but hardware doesn’t?

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I can confirm that this is also an issue in KVM Whonix as well.

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