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Advanced {{q_project_name}} users can investigate [monero-site/_i18n/ar/resources/user-guides/wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.md at 6c25a8714b5f7c3863e91dac3fe48472c6b4b253 · 0xB44EFD8751077F97/monero-site · GitHub Wallet/Daemon Isolation]. In this configuration the Monero wallet does not have a network connection and is run on system that is virtually isolated from the daemon, which has all its traffic routed over Tor. This is untested by {{project_name}} maintainers.
Qubes gives the flexibility to easily create separate VMs for different purposes. First you will create a Whonix workstation for the daemon which will use a Whonix gateway for networking. Next, another Whonix workstation for the wallet with no connection to the network. For communication between the wallet and daemon you can make use of Qubes qrexec.
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This is safer than other approaches which route the wallet’s rpc over a Tor hidden service, or that use physical isolation but still have networking to connect to the daemon. In this way you don’t need any network connection on the wallet, you preserve resources of the Tor network, and you incur less latency.
I am not sure that is correct:
In this configuration the Monero wallet does not have a network connection and is run on system that is virtually isolated from the daemon, which has all its traffic routed over Tor.
Quote monero-site/_i18n/ar/resources/user-guides/wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.md at 6c25a8714b5f7c3863e91dac3fe48472c6b4b253 · 0xB44EFD8751077F97/monero-site · GitHub
For communication between the wallet and daemon you can make use of Qubes qrexec
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That qrexec connection is as good as a network connection. Different from a split (offline + watch-only) wallet Contents/docs/security/split-bitcoin.md at master · Qubes-Community/Contents · GitHub
Found that on the qubes-os forum where users talk about using it and it working.
Also - we already mention that link in the Intro on that wiki page. So if it’s wrong, it should be removed from both sections.
Personally I don’t put much faith in cryptocoin vaporware, so I don’t mind either way.
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Alright. Too complex to get into as a sideline. Could you remove both mentions please?
Advanced [[Qubes]] users could look into [CLI Wallet/Daemon Isolation with Qubes + Whonix | Monero - secure, private, untraceable CLI Wallet/Daemon Isolation with Qubes + {{project_name}}]
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[Redirecting to Google Groups qubes-users - Guide: Monero wallet/daemon isolation w/qubes+whonix]
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Or we could keep this as an honorable mention, let advanced users look into it but otherwise stay out of it since complex, unspecific to Whonix?
Patrick
December 13, 2021, 11:28pm
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Was 0.17.2.3
previously. (Forgot to post.)
Upgraded to 0.17.3.0
just now.
opened 05:36PM - 02 Apr 21 UTC
Installed the official monero package from Debian bullseye/testing, unable to in… stall the Monero gui from whonix due to dependencies. The tarball monero-gui also only works when the official debian package is uninstalled.
I take it there is some cooperation going-on between devs and the Debian Cryptocoin Team <team+cryptocoin@tracker.debian.org> .
Would be nice to see monero-gui officially supported by Debian :)
Dependencies issues according to ticket creator.
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Answered in above ticket.
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Current Monero-gui is 0.17.3.2 in upstream (29 April 2022), In Whonix 0.17.3.0 ( 4 December 2021)
I think its worth to have new version.
Uploaded 0.17.3.2
to testers repository just now.
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Now in stable repository.
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redex
June 14, 2022, 7:27pm
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could this be relevant to whonix and steam isolation?
monero-project:master
← tobtoht:daemon_proxy
opened 11:34PM - 18 Mar 21 UTC
Patch originally provided by wfaressuissia[m] in #monero-dev, with minor changes… .
Tails does not transparently torify traffic, as such torsocks must be used in absence of application-level configuration. This introduces various issues, such as long timeouts (See: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6708#issuecomment-658899258) and problems closing monerod because torsocks likes to eat sigints. This patch eliminates the need for torsocks by introducing a command line argument for setting the socks proxy. This will also allow the GUI to spawn monerod without using torsocks to fix simple and bootstrap mode on Tails.
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@nurmagoz via Whonix Forum:
Monero will undergo a network upgrade on 13th August, 2022 | Monero - secure, private, untraceable
The new software (v0.18 “Fluorine Fermi”) will be released one month before the network upgrade, on the ~13th of July.
Monero GUI 0.18 not released yet. To check:
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